Elon Musk Says He Might Get Thrown in Jail If Trump Doesn’t Win

Elon Musk, the world’s richest person, appeared connected a caller occurrence of Tucker Carlson’s web video amusement Monday successful an astir two-hour interview. Musk made mendacious claims astir undocumented immigrants voting successful the U.S., lied astir the authorities of California legalizing theft, and complained astir stateless people, among a big of different topics. Musk adjacent claimed—first jokingly and past not-so-jokingly—that helium would beryllium thrown successful situation if Donald Trump didn’t bushed Kamala Harris successful the statesmanlike election.

“If helium loses, man, what…” Carlson said with a laugh, “you’re fucked, dude.”

“I’m fucked. If helium loses, I’m fucked,” Musk said arsenic they some laughed. “How agelong bash you deliberation my situation condemnation is going to be? Do you think? Will I spot my children? I don’t know.”

Musk went connected to explicate that he’d been “trashing Kamala non-stop,” notably mispronouncing the sanction of the vice president, portion outlining the “joke” he’d told connected his societal media level X astir the imaginable assassination of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Musk yet deleted that tweet.

It was each done with a laugh, but the treatment was besides deadly serious, arsenic viewers would larn portion the 2 men spoke astatine length. Later successful the interview, which was recorded on Sunday, Musk reiterated that helium was specified a menace to Democrats similar Harris would adjacent person him jailed. The billionaire said X successful particular, which Musk bought for $44 cardinal backmost successful 2022 erstwhile it was known arsenic Twitter, was specified a menace that Dems would effort to “shut it down by immoderate means possible.”

“They’ll effort to prosecute the company, prosecute me. I mean, the magnitude of lawfare that we’ve seen taking spot is outrageous,” said Musk.

Musk has precise publically backed Trump successful this predetermination and adjacent started a Political Action Committee that’s offering $47 to registered voters successful 7 states who motion up for his “petition.” But Musk appears to deliberation of himself arsenic a perpetual unfortunate of wide forces, contempt being the wealthiest idiosyncratic successful the world.

The billionaire SpaceX CEO besides repeated lies astir the authorities of California making theft legal, a right-wing meme that’s popular connected X, which would look to contradict his ain assertion that helium would yet beryllium thrown successful situation for crimes if the Democrats stay successful the White House.

“Well, you cognize this full question to decriminalize crime,” Musk asked Carlson.

“Oh, I’ve noticed. Yes. What is that?” Carlson replied.

“Madness. Like to marque crime… transgression legal, similar successful California you tin conscionable bargain things and cipher does anything. It’s similar afloat ineligible to bargain thing nether $1,000 successful California,” Musk insisted.

Musk is referring to the information that the cut-off for erstwhile a misdemeanor becomes felony theft is $950 successful California. But arsenic Washington Post transgression justness newsman Radley Balko wrote successful 2023, debunking this meme, 34 states person a higher threshold for felony theft than California. Republican-run states similar Texas ($2,500) and South Carolina ($2,000) person overmuch higher thresholds, which undercuts this idea, contempt what gets parroted non-stop connected Fox News and X.

Musk besides complained that the nationalist hasn’t seen deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s lawsuit list, a peculiarly comic reflection fixed the information that Musk’s member reportedly got acceptable up with a woman by Epstein successful an effort to get adjacent to Musk, according to a 2020 study from Business Insider. Musk compared the fig of clients we cognize astir to the fig of radical who’ve been prosecuted for Trump’s failed coup effort connected January 6, 2021, calling them “protesters” contempt the information that they were trying to halt the certification of the predetermination truthful that Trump could stay successful powerfulness illegally.

“I mean they enactment like, whatever, 5 oregon six 100 January 6th protesters successful situation and not 1 idiosyncratic connected the Epstein lawsuit list,” Musk said, earlier Carlson asked if the database volition ever travel out.

“You know, I deliberation portion of wherefore Kamala’s getting truthful overmuch support,” Musk said, “if Trump wins, that Epstein lawsuit database is going to go public.”

Carlson past asked Musk “do you deliberation Reid Hoffman is uncomfortable?” referring to the billionaire co-founder of LinkedIn, who had visited Epstein’s backstage land successful the Caribbean successful 2014, according to a 2023 study from the Wall Street Journal. Hoffman told the paper that helium was connected an “MIT fundraising trip” astatine the time.

Musk replied by saying that helium did deliberation Hoffman is uncomfortable on with “Gates,” presumably referring to Bill Gates, who besides met with Epstein astatine slightest three times, according to reporting from the New York Times. Musk besides noted with a laughter that Hoffman “was my vice president of concern improvement astatine PayPal.”

But, again, if immoderate relation with Epstein and his accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell is thing to beryllium disquieted astir we person immoderate atrocious quality for some Musk and Donald Trump.

Carlson besides claimed during the interrogation that rooms astatine Epstein’s homes were wired for video, suggesting immoderate tapes could beryllium implicating almighty people, though it’s not really wide if specified tapes exist. And Musk took the accidental to pivot to talking astir Sean Diddy Combs, who was precocious arrested implicit enactment trafficking charges.

“Where’s the video? I mean, betwixt Diddy and Epstein, there’s astir apt respective 1000 hours of footage here,” Musk said. But, again, that’s an unusual happening to bring up fixed reports that Musk has said he’s “good” friends with Diddy, who was besides an capitalist who helped Musk instrumentality Twitter backstage successful 2022.

Is it imaginable Trump could really merchandise caller accusation astir Epstein? The erstwhile president was asked astir whether he’d merchandise immoderate imaginable lawsuit lists connected the Lex Fridman podcast last month. And his effect was precise odd.

“Um, helium was a bully salesman. He was, you know, a hale and hearty benignant of guy,” Trump told Fridman earlier suggesting helium mightiness merchandise files connected Epstein without saying thing definitive. It was Trump’s ain Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta who, arsenic a U.S. Attorney successful 2007, gave Epstein a sweetheart plea woody that provided the pedophile with immunity. And Trump defended Acosta astatine the clip back successful 2019 erstwhile radical were calling for Acosta to beryllium fired aft caller Epstein revelations came out.

And don’t hide what Trump said of Epstein successful a 2002 nonfiction for New York magazine.

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump is quoted arsenic saying. “He’s a batch of amusive to beryllium with. It is adjacent said that helium likes beauteous women arsenic overmuch arsenic I do, and galore of them are connected the younger side. No uncertainty astir it—Jeffrey enjoys his societal life.”

The remainder of Carlson’s interrogation includes the accustomed whining from Musk astir however the Democrats are trying to rig the election. Musk ranted astir amerciable immigration, claiming that Democrats are flying undocumented migrants into plaything states to alteration the election. Musk besides said the Dems volition “legalize truthful galore illegals that are determination that the adjacent election, determination won’t beryllium immoderate plaything states.”

Musk adjacent said that due to the fact that Kamala Harris didn’t spell done the accepted superior process earlier President Biden stepped aside, the Democrats were creating a “tiny oligarchy,” which is simply a comic happening for an American oligarch to say. Musk’s companies person virtually made billions from U.S. authorities contracts and subsidies for SpaceX and Tesla, but the billionaire flatly denied that this was the case.

The speech is truthful unbelievable it’s worthy quoting astatine length:

Musk: There’s this full misunderstanding that my companies person been subsidized and supported by the authorities and get each these—and it’s like, bash you truly deliberation that a Biden medication is going to subsidize me?

Carlson: Probably not.

Musk: In fact, they instrumentality distant each declaration they perchance can. So, for example, determination was the FCC declaration to $42 cardinal for providing agrarian broadband.

Carlson: Yes.

Musk: Okay. We really archetypal said, look, we deliberation determination shouldn’t beryllium immoderate subsidies, truthful we urge that this programme conscionable not exist. But since you’re insisting that it exists, we volition compete. And we person amended products, truthful we won, I don’t know, astir a 4th of it, which would person included the devastated areas similar North Carolina and truthful on. And the FCC took it distant illegally. They conscionable voted—three retired of 5 commissioners voted distant and said, adjacent though you won it, we’re rescinding it.

Carlson: On what grounds?

Musk: And bash you cognize however galore radical they’ve connected?

Carlson: How many?

Musk: Zero.

Carlson: So, you deliberation that was political?

Musk: Well, the 3 Democrats voted against it. And the 2 Republicans voted for it.

The FCC didn’t instantly respond to questions emailed connected Monday. The FCC programme he’s referring to was a declaration awarded successful 2020 that provided SpaceX with $885.5 cardinal successful subsidies to deploy Starlink net outer service. The FCC chopped disconnected SpaceX successful August 2022 citing mediocre velocity trial data, according to Reuters.

But, to beryllium clear, Musk’s companies person each profited handsomely from authorities money, adjacent if SpaceX is presently having a tiff implicit 1 contract. And it’s frankly unbelievable that his institution would effort to archer the authorities a programme shouldn’t beryllium and past bid connected it.

But nary of that stopped Musk from saying immoderate of the astir ridiculously over-the-top things astir what volition hap if Harris wins connected November 5.

“My presumption is, is that if Trump doesn’t triumph this election, it’s the past predetermination we’re going to have,” Musk insisted. “That the Democrats, the Dem instrumentality has been importing truthful galore people… bringing successful truthful galore illegals… flying, flying successful with this similar CVP [sic] borderline app happening that cipher adjacent knew astir similar a concealed program. That’s amerciable basically.”

Musk was referring to the CBP One app, which allows immigrants to use for asylum. And portion some Musk and Trump person tried to accidental this app is Biden’s doing, that couldn’t beryllium further from the truth. Right determination connected the Customs and Border Protection website, you tin spot the app was launched successful October of 2020. And you whitethorn callback that Trump was president astatine that time.

Elon Musk is each in.

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— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) October 7, 2024

Musk, who’s worthy astir $264 billion, besides complained astir stateless radical during his interrogation with Carlson, different precise affluent man.

“Homeless is simply a misnomer. It implies that idiosyncratic got a small down connected their owe and if you conscionable connection them a job, they’d beryllium backmost connected their feet,” said Musk. “But if you spell and look astatine downtown Philly oregon San Francisco oregon parts of New York and really astir downtown, what you really person are convulsive cause zombies.”

Musk, who called Trump “the underdog,” besides claimed that determination are much billionaires successful the Democratic campy than successful the Republican camp. Forbes, the starring quality outlet with expertise connected the ways of the wealthy, really conducted a survey of American billionaires successful 2020 and recovered that 43% identified arsenic Republicans, 33% identified arsenic Democrats, and 24% identified arsenic Independents. Yet again, Musk is afloat of shit.

Carlson, whose begetter was America’s top overseas propagandist during the Reagan medication successful the 1980s, besides discussed George Soros, who Musk said wasn’t truly successful complaint of the left-wing governmental instrumentality to “legalize crime” anymore. Instead, Musk blamed that connected his son, Alex Soros. Carlson said their policies were “expressions of hatred toward the United States.”

“If I was pushing that connected a country, I would lone bash that if I hated the state and wanted to destruct it,” Carlson said.

Musk, who refers to himself arsenic “culturally Christian,” besides rambled astir what helium calls the “woke caput virus” which helium claims is simply a replacement for religion and is waging a “woke beatified war” that’s “highly resistant to change.”

Musk launched into his theories connected overpopulation and that radical should beryllium having arsenic galore kids arsenic possible.

“We request to halt scaring women that having a kid destroys your life,” Musk said. “This is false. We terrify girls into saying that if you get large it’s your life’s over. This is what schools teach. I hold we should not person teenage pregnancies, but really having a kid is 1 of the astir delightful, happiness-inducing things you tin perchance do.”

The billionaire was besides railing against hormonal commencement power for women, saying it “causes depression,” and suicidal thoughts portion “changing their preferences for who they privation to wed oregon person kids with,” insisting that “it changes their personality.”

Musk besides called SSRI anti-depressants “the devil” that “zombifiy people,” with Carlson adjacent suggesting it has thing to bash with America’s wide shooting epidemic.

“I’m not saying nary 1 should ever beryllium subscribed [sic] SSRIs, but giving them retired similar candy is easy,” said Musk.

Musk past segued into hyping AI, claiming generative AI could constitute “a amended effort than 95% of each humans,” and amended images than “90% of artists,” calling it conscionable “objectively the case.” The billionaire besides whined astir OpenAI’s Sam Altman, who he’s had atrocious humor with ever since Musk was pushed retired of the organization.

“I don’t spot Sam Altman, and I don’t deliberation we privation to person the astir almighty AI successful the satellite controlled by idiosyncratic who is not trustworthy,” said Musk.

The full interrogation was conscionable ridiculous and cringe-worthy each around. Musk told Carlson that helium didn’t adjacent person a teleprompter erstwhile helium delivered his code astatine a caller Trump rally implicit the weekend. Carlson looked incredibly impressed, which is hilarious if you really watched Musk’s embarrassingly atrocious performance. It was incredibly wide Musk was winging it due to the fact that helium perpetually repeated himself and didn’t person thing absorbing to say. Instead, his painfully awkward jumping became the communicative of the event.