Epic v. Google: everything we learned in Fortnite court

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The aboriginal of Google’s app store is astatine involvement successful a suit by Fortnite publisher Epic Games. Epic sued Google successful 2020 aft a combat implicit in-app acquisition fees, claiming the Android operating system’s Google Play store constituted an unlawful monopoly. It wanted Google to marque utilizing third-party app stores, sideloaded apps, and non-Google outgo processors easier — portion Google said its demands would harm Android’s quality to connection a unafraid idiosyncratic acquisition and vie with Apple’s iOS.

On December 11th 2023, the assemblage ruled successful Epic’s favor, uncovering that Google has turned its Google Play app store and Google Play Billing work into an amerciable monopoly, answering yes to each question successful beforehand of them astir Google’s monopoly power, anticompetitive behavior, and the amerciable ties betwixt the antithetic parts of its business. Here’s a unsmooth summary of wherefore the assemblage mightiness person decided that way.

In October 2024, the justice issued his final, perchance monumental determination — cracking the Google Play Store unfastened to rival stores for 3 years, among galore different things. We’re present waiting to spot if Google manages to appeal, and stay, the imperishable injunction.

Wondering wherefore Google mislaid erstwhile Apple won? Here’s an effort to reply that question.

Follow on with each of our updates below.

  • Richard Lawler

    “Google did not petition that Samsung make their Auto Blocker feature.”

    That’s according to Google’s caput of Android security, David Kleidermacher, who is publicly pushing back connected the claims made by Epic Games successful its caller suit against Google and Samsung.

    Earlier, Samsung said it plans to “vigorously contention Epic Game’s baseless claims.”


    That’s wherefore  Google offers its ain  information   features specified  arsenic  Google Play Protect, which checks for harmful apps connected  a user’s device, careless  of wherever  the app was downloaded. Android instrumentality  makers are escaped  to innovate and plan  further  information   features for their devices. To marque   this astir  entree  to a crippled  is deliberately misleading; this is astir  idiosyncratic    safety. And Epic’s suit  puts their firm  interests supra  idiosyncratic    protections.

    That’s wherefore  Google offers its ain  information   features specified  arsenic  Google Play Protect, which checks for harmful apps connected  a user’s device, careless  of wherever  the app was downloaded. Android instrumentality  makers are escaped  to innovate and plan  further  information   features for their devices. To marque   this astir  entree  to a crippled  is deliberately misleading; this is astir  idiosyncratic    safety. And Epic’s suit  puts their firm  interests supra  idiosyncratic    protections.

    Screenshot: @daveksecure (X)

  • Sean Hollister

    Samsung won’t corroborate oregon contradict whether it worked with Google connected Auto Blocker — oregon whether it really scans for threats.

    Google, too, wouldn’t corroborate oregon contradict whether it worked with Samsung on the feature, which is present the people of a caller Epic Games suit against some companies.

    Instead, Google tells The Verge that it’s “a meritless lawsuit”; Samsung tells america it plans to “vigorously contention Epic Game’s baseless claims.”


  • Sean Hollister

    Tim Sweeney says his Epic lawsuits are each astir freeing the youth:

    We privation our kids to turn up successful a satellite that’s amended than this one. I grew up successful an awesome satellite for developers and opportunity, the aboriginal days of Apple II computers and PCs, and anybody increasing up, coming of property successful this manufacture close now, is champion lawsuit going to beryllium an Apple and Google serf. That has to change. That indispensable change.

    Not astonishing to perceive the antheral down “Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite” accidental this, but it truly does encapsulate his warfare with the tech industry. More connected the latest suit here.


  • Sean Hollister

    Epic is suing Google — again — and present Samsung, too

    Photo illustration of Tim Sweeney successful  beforehand   of Google and Epic logos.

    Photo illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge | Photo by Philip Pacheco, Getty Images

    Four years aft Epic sued Google for moving an amerciable app store monopoly — a lawsuit it won this past December — Epic is suing again. The Fortnite crippled developer has filed a second antitrust suit against Google, and present additionally Samsung, accusing them of illegally conspiring to undermine third-party app stores.

    The suit revolves astir Samsung’s “Auto Blocker” feature, which present comes turned-on-by-default connected caller Samsung phones. While it’s turned on, it automatically keeps users from installing apps unless they travel from “authorized sources” — namely, Google and Samsung’s app stores. Epic claims there’s nary process for immoderate rival store to go “authorized.”

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  • Sean Hollister

    Here’s however overmuch Google says it’d outgo to fulfill Epic’s biggest demands

    Illustration of the Epic Games logo and Google logo wrong  of a Google Play logo.

    Illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge

    How overmuch would it outgo Google to fto third-party app stores similar the Epic Games Store unrecorded wrong its ain Google Play Store, with entree to each Android app? Google says the reputational harm can’t beryllium calculated — but that it’d instrumentality 12 to 18 months and upwards of $60 cardinal to physique and support the method underpinnings.

    We’re inactive waiting to find retired what Epic really won in its astonishment triumph against Google past December, aft a assemblage decided the Google Play app store and Google Play Billing are amerciable monopolies — but we cognize what Epic wants. The Fortnite developer’s biggest inquire was arguably for Google to unfastened up its ain Android app store, forcing Google to transportation different competing app stores wrong its walls.

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  • Thomas Ricker

    Google issues effect to Epic wishlist.

    It’s precisely what you’d expect aft the Fortnite shaper said it was entitled to everything and a container of chips due to its antitrust victory in national court. Google wants Judge James Donato to deliberation different:

    “Epic’s demands would harm the privacy, security, and wide acquisition of consumers, developers, and instrumentality manufacturers. Not lone does their connection spell acold beyond the scope of the caller U.S. proceedings verdict – which we volition beryllium challenging – it’s besides unnecessary owed to the colony we reached past twelvemonth with State Attorneys General from each authorities and aggregate territories.”

    We’ll find retired precisely however Android and the Google Play Store volition alteration successful a proceeding that begins connected May 23rd.


  • Sean Hollister

    Here’s 16 pages of what Epic wants aft winning its Google app store lawsuit

    Photo illustration of Tim Sweeney successful  beforehand   of Google and Epic logos.

    Photo illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge | Photo by Philip Pacheco, Getty Images

    Do you deliberation a justice volition marque Google let an Android mentation of the Epic Games Store to unrecorded wrong its ain Google Play Store, fto the Epic Games Store person entree to each app wrong Google Play, and fto Android users statesman sideloading apps with a azygous tap? Because Epic’s asking for those and a full batch much successful the aftermath of Epic v. Google.

    On December 11th, Epic won a astonishment triumph against Google successful national court. A assemblage unanimously decided that Google had turned its Google Play app store and Google Play Billing work into an amerciable monopoly. But what did Epic win? That’s yet to beryllium decided by Judge James Donato, and today, we’re yet learning precisely what Epic believes it should get.

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  • Sean Hollister

    The Epic question: however Google mislaid erstwhile Apple won

    Image: Epic Games

    Apple rules the iPhone’s App Store with an robust fist — sideloading extracurricular it is not allowed. Google lets anyone instal immoderate app connected an Android phone. But conjecture which 1 of these 2 companies has an amerciable monopoly, according to the courts?

    As you astir apt already know, Google is the 1 that mislaid its combat against Epic Games this week. It’s a combat that Apple antecedently (mostly) won in a akin proceedings successful 2021, beating claims that it had violated antitrust laws by charging mandatory in-app transaction fees and kicking Epic’s crippled Fortnite disconnected the App Store. Google tried a akin move, but successful its case, a assemblage recovered it had maintained an unlawful monopoly with the Play store; a justice is scheduled to see remedies adjacent month.

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  • Sean Hollister

    Epic juror confirms Google’s deleted chats were a origin successful the verdict.

    Xu Yuan, a affable courtroom newsman for MLex that I sat with regularly during the trial, managed to get an interrogation with 1 of the Epic v. Google jurors — who confirmed that Google’s deleted chats affected their decision.

    That aforesaid juror found Tim Sweeney “very honest” and much credible than Google’s CEO.


  • Sean Hollister

    And present is Epic’s celebratory blog station aft the Epic v. Google ruling.

    In lawsuit you’re wondering wherefore Tim Sweeney was thanking jurors connected behalf of 1 cardinal developers... it’s portion of this blog post, too.


  • Sean Hollister

    Epic win: Jury decides Google has amerciable monopoly successful app store fight

    Illustration of the Epic Games logo and Google logo wrong  of a Google Play logo.

    Illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge

    Three years aft Fortnite-maker Epic Games sued Apple and Google for allegedly moving amerciable app store monopolies, Epic has a win. The assemblage successful Epic v. Google has conscionable delivered its verdict — and it recovered that Google turned its Google Play app store and Google Play Billing work into an amerciable monopoly.

    After conscionable a fewer hours of deliberation, the assemblage unanimously answered yes to each question enactment earlier them — that Google has monopoly powerfulness successful the Android app organisation markets and in-app billing services markets, that Google did anticompetitive things successful those markets, and that Epic was injured by that behavior. They decided Google has an amerciable necktie betwixt its Google Play app store and its Google Play Billing outgo services, too, and that its organisation agreement, Project Hug deals with crippled developers, and deals with OEMs were each anticompetitive.

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  • Sean Hollister

    Google volition entreaty the Epic v. Google verdict.

    We program to situation the verdict. Android and Google Play supply much prime and openness than immoderate different large mobile platform. The proceedings made wide that we vie fiercely with Apple and its App Store, arsenic good arsenic app stores connected Android devices and gaming consoles. We volition proceed to support the Android concern exemplary and stay profoundly committed to our users, partners, and the broader Android ecosystem. - Wilson White, VP, Government Affairs & Public Policy

    That's not surprising: a assemblage gave Epic a full triumph today.


  • Sean Hollister

    Here is Tim Sweeney’s triumph tweet pursuing the Epic v. Google verdict:

    “Victory implicit Google! After 4 weeks of elaborate tribunal testimony, the California assemblage recovered against the Google Play monopoly connected each counts. The Court’s enactment connected remedies volition commencement successful January. Thanks for everyone’s enactment and faith! Free Fortnite!”


  • Sean Hollister

    In the hallway, Epic's attorneys are taking photos with the jurors.

    The assemblage is each smiles. "The 1 cardinal crippled developers who couldn't beryllium present convey you," says Sweeney, arsenic they caput into the elevator and down retired of the courthouse.


  • Sean Hollister

    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney has a immense grin connected his look and is shaking hands.

    He thanked Google’s pb lawyer Glenn Pomerantz “for being precise professional” and clapped Epic’s pb lawyer Gary Bornstein connected the back.

    Attorneys for some sides volition conscionable with the justice successful the 2nd week of January to sermon adjacent steps.


  • Sean Hollister

    We person a verdict successful Epic v. Google.

    Stand by... attorneys and journalists person filed backmost into the courtroom. We’re waiting for the justice and assemblage now.


  • Sean Hollister

    We’re done with closing arguments successful Epic v. Google.

    Bornstein asked the assemblage to cautiously work the assemblage instructions due to the fact that Google seemingly cherry-picked a condemnation to constituent retired to them earlier. He besides asked them to see whether Google tried to nip contention successful the bud earlier it could ever emerge.

    The assemblage filed out, the justice thanked some parties for preparing the lawsuit good and arguing it efficiently... and now, we’re done until there’s a verdict! It sounds similar the assemblage volition devour luncheon earlier opening deliberations, truthful I should person clip to drawback immoderate nutrient arsenic well.


  • Sean Hollister

    Epic: “I hold with Google, we request to look astatine the existent world.”

    Epic is getting 8 minutes of rebuttal to Google’s closing argument, and pb lawyer Gary Bornstein is utilizing portion of it to reason this: we should look astatine the interior documents successful this lawsuit to spot what’s really going on.

    “What did they accidental successful their documents? That tells you what they believed successful the existent world.”

    He begins by showing 1 of the emails Google showed america astir reacting to an Apple alteration successful terms — and that Google chose not to travel that terms alteration astatine the time.

    “They chose not to alteration their terms contempt believing that Apple was changing theirs,” helium says, and “during that clip not a azygous developer pulled retired of the Play Store to absorption connected iOS.”


  • Sean Hollister

    Google points retired Epic has ne'er shown a little restrictive mode to cod its fee.

    Kravis says it’s a “reliable and businesslike mode to cod the fee” to necktie it to its ain billing strategy — which is wherefore each different app and crippled level does it the aforesaid way, helium claims.


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