Peter Thiel’s Blood Starts Pumping When Talking About Jeffrey Epstein

Peter Thiel went connected Joe Rogan’s podcast connected Friday and shared his eccentric “thoughts” connected a wide scope of topics. Given Thiel’s estimation arsenic libertarian philosopher king, PayPal mafia member, defense contractor, former Trump lover, and political megadonor, listeners mightiness person assumed that a gathering of these minds would beryllium fascinating. If you find 2 men who deliberation they’re acold smarter than they are talking astatine magnitude astir the upwind fascinating, well, the occurrence delivered.

The main occupation with Thiel is that—as colorful and nefarious arsenic helium sounds connected paper—he is highly boring to perceive to. Hearing him drone connected astir governmental and technological concepts is the auditory equivalent of watching overgarment adust and, contempt the information that his remarks often springiness the content that he’s open-sourcing designs for a rightwing crippled against America, my eyes can’t assistance but glaze implicit astatine the dependable of his voice.

That said, Thiel is inactive interesting—not due to the fact that of his personality, but due to the fact that of the ideas and the governmental forces that helium represents. There are fewer radical who person attempted to exert their volition successful America’s governmental and taste speech much than Thiel, and arsenic such, whether he’s charismatic oregon not, it’s beauteous important to perceive what helium has to say.

Rogan and Thiel’s speech starts with a treatment of the galore “problems” facing America. Thiel’s apical interest is typical for idiosyncratic successful his socio-economic bracket: the national deficit. “Yeah. I mean, determination are a batch [of problems] that are beauteous evident to articulate, and they’re overmuch easier to picture than solve. Like we person a crazy, brainsick fund deficit,” Thiel offered. Currently, the U.S. authorities is $34 trillion successful debt, a information that blimpish politicians and commentators person agelong been obsessed with, adjacent though economists are split connected whether it’s really adjacent a problem.

What tin we bash astir the deficit? Again, Thiel gives a emblematic affluent idiosyncratic answer: The solution to America’s budgetary woes isn’t to modernize programs that were created past century, trim immoderate of the financial fat appended to the Pentagon (Thiel’s employer), oregon deity forbid, rise taxes connected insanely affluent radical similar Thiel, but, arsenic Thiel puts it, to fig “out ways to gradually dial backmost a batch of these authorities benefits” (i.e., marque cuts to programs similar Social Security, the societal information nett that millions of non-rich Americans trust on).

As a known right-winger, Thiel besides spends an obligatory magnitude of clip hating connected that bastion of corrupt liberalism known arsenic California. “The unsmooth exemplary I person for however to deliberation of California is that it’s benignant of similar Saudi Arabia,” says Thiel. “And you person a brainsick religion, wokeism successful California, Wahhabism successful Saudi Arabia. You know, not that galore radical judge it, but it distorts everything. And past you person similar lipid fields successful Saudi Arabia, and you person the large tech companies successful California and the lipid pays for everything. And past you person a wholly bloated, inefficient authorities sector.”

However, portion Thiel paints a comically grim representation of California, helium can’t yet look to travel up with a determination that beats it. After rattling disconnected a database of cities and cataloging their evident faults, helium yet admits that erstwhile it comes to California’s coastal climate: “I’m a sucker for the weather.” You get the feeling that he’s truly lone dumping connected the authorities to impressment his right-wing pals.

Other important conversational junctures: Is clime alteration real? Thiel’s effect is simply a afloat 17 seconds of stammers before admitting: “It’s imaginable clime alteration is happening.”

The declining birthrate? Thiel seems to hold with Elon’s position that it’s bad: “Once you get an inverted demographic pyramid, astatine immoderate constituent bash you ballot for benefits for the aged oregon for the young? If the radical with kids get financially penalized and the radical without kids ballot benefits for themselves, it volition beryllium precise hard to flip back.”

Thiel and Rogan grouse astir a full batch of antithetic topics successful the three-plus hours that the speech runs (UFOs, past civilizations, and AI are besides discussed), but it isn’t until astir 2 hours into this interminable dialogue, that the taxable turns to Jeffrey Epstein and related conspiracy theories, that Thiel yet said thing interesting.

Indeed, Thiel spent a weird magnitude of clip vamping astir erstwhile Microsoft CEO Bill Gates and his ties to Epstein. He avoided the darker conspiracy theories astir the dormant pedophile, seeming to brushwood disconnected claims that helium whitethorn person been a dual quality agent moving for the U.S. and Israel. Instead, helium focused connected Gates’ affiliations with the creep. To Thiel, it seems astir apt that Gates’ narration with Epstein evolved retired of his marital problems with Melinda, and that Epstein whitethorn person advised the Microsoft brag connected however to funnel his wealth into “left-wing philanthropy” organizations to debar giving astir of it to his woman successful a divorcement settlement. His mentation was: “Bill and Melinda get joined successful 1994, they don’t motion a prenup, and, you know, something’s going incorrect with the marriage,” Thiel said. “And possibly Melinda tin get fractional the wealth successful a divorce. He doesn’t privation her to get fractional the money. What bash you do?”

“The alternate program is thing like… You perpetrate the marital assets to this nonprofit and past it benignant of locks Melinda into not complaining astir the matrimony for a long, agelong time,” Thiel continued. “And truthful there’s thing astir the left-wing philanthropy satellite that was…some benignant of Boomer mode to power their brainsick wives.”

Thus, Thiel someway manages to marque the Jeffrey Epstein saga into a conspiracy related to “left-wing philanthropy”—an awesome feat, fixed however galore unspeakable things Epstein has been accused of that person thing to bash with “leftism” oregon philanthropy. It’s unclear why, of each the conversational junctures successful their marathon conversation, Thiel seems to person been truthful funny successful this peculiar subject, though it whitethorn conscionable beryllium that helium finds conspiracy theories conscionable arsenic intriguing arsenic the remainder of us.

Thiel, himself, admits to having met with Epstein respective times. When asked by Rogan who introduced him, Thiel—who spends an unbelievable magnitude of the speech stammering his mode done answers— comically delivers an reply arsenic succinct and fact-oriented arsenic a lawyer: “It was [LinkedIn founder] Reid Hoffman successful Silicon Valley introduced america successful 2014.”