‘We’re Gonna Win’: Trump Spouts Anti-Vax Garbage in Shady Phone Call With RFK Jr.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. apologized to Donald Trump connected Tuesday aft a information of a telephone telephone betwixt the 2 men was leaked to societal media by Kennedy’s lad connected Sunday. What were the 2 statesmanlike candidates talking about? The assassination effort against Trump connected Saturday, the “tough” weapon utilized during the shooting, and the expected information of puerility vaccinations.

“When President Trump called maine I was taping with an in-house videographer. I should person ordered the videographer to halt signaling immediately,” Kennedy wrote connected X Tuesday. “I americium mortified that this was posted. I apologize to the president.”

The video clip, which is astir 1 infinitesimal and 40 seconds long, appears to person been recorded disconnected different screen, powerfully suggesting Kennedy’s lad recorded it disconnected a video show successful bid to station it to societal media. The clip starts with Trump talking astir the imaginable dangers of vaccines, a favored contented for Kennedy, who has spent overmuch of his big beingness falsely claiming that vaccines origin autism successful children.

“I hold with you, man. Something’s incorrect with that full system,” Trump tin beryllium heard saying from the commencement of the video.

Kennedy replies with “yeah” earlier Trump continues with, “…and it’s the doctors you find. Remember I said I privation to bash tiny doses. Small doses.”

“When you provender a baby, Bobby, a vaccination that is similar 38 antithetic vaccines, and it looks similar it’s meant for a horse, not a… you know, 10-pound oregon 20-pound baby, it looks similar you’re giving… you should beryllium giving a equine this thing, and bash you ever spot the size of it?” Trump tin beryllium heard saying. “It’s monolithic and past you spot the babe each of a abrupt starting to alteration radically. I’ve seen it excessively galore times. And past you perceive that it doesn’t person an impact, right? But you and I talked astir that a agelong clip ago.”

There’s besides a infinitesimal erstwhile Trump seems to suggest Kennedy would beryllium doing thing “big” with Trump’s campaign, though it’s not wide what the erstwhile president is referring to. The speculation, of course, is that Kennedy would articulation Trump successful immoderate capableness if helium retakes power.

“Anyway, I would emotion you to bash thing and I deliberation it would beryllium truthful bully for you, and truthful large for you,” Trump says successful the video clip. “And we’re gonna win. We’re gonna win. We’re mode up of the guy.”

A video of Trump’s telephone with RFK Jr. was leaked – Trump talks astir vaccines, tells RFK Jr. doing thing with him would beryllium “big,” mentioned his telephone with Biden and said the slug was similar “the world’s largest mosquito.”
RFK Jr apologized for the leak. pic.twitter.com/Z6DQ955P6W

— Meridith McGraw (@meridithmcgraw) July 16, 2024

Trump tin besides beryllium heard talking with Kennedy astir the assassination effort successful Pennsylvania connected Saturday and appears to beryllium talking astir the telephone telephone President Joe Biden made to Trump.

“He was precise bully actually. He called and helium said, ‘How did you take to determination to the right?,’” Trump said. “I said, ‘I was conscionable showing a chart.’ I didn’t person to archer him the illustration was connected each the radical pouring into our country, right?”

“I conscionable turned my caput to amusement the illustration and thing rapped me,” Trump continues. “And it sounds similar a giant… similar the world’s largest mosquito. And, uh, it was. It was a slug going round. What bash they telephone it? An AR-15 oregon something. That was a large gun. That’s a beauteous pugnacious gun.”

Kennedy’s lad deleted the video “within hours,” according to CNN, but it was primitively posted with the caption, “I americium a steadfast believer that these sorts of conversations should beryllium had successful public. Here’s Trump giving his existent sentiment to my dada astir vaccinating kids – this was the time aft the assassination attempt.” There are claims connected X that the video was archetypal posted to Instagram earlier being deleted but Gizmodo couldn’t independently verify that.

There are besides claims connected X that Kennedy intended for this video to leak, pointing to the information that helium tin beryllium seen utilizing the speakerphone diagnostic with the telephone distant from his face. But NBC newsman Brandy Zadrozny, who specializes successful conspiracy theories and misinformation online, points retired that Kennedy really holds the telephone similar that due to the fact that helium believes telephone signals could springiness him tumors successful his head. Kennedy said arsenic overmuch during an quality connected Joe Rogan’s podcast backmost successful June, arsenic Zadrozny notes connected X.

Also seeing a batch of folks saying Kennedy MEANT for this to beryllium leaked by his lad due to the fact that of the mode he’s utilizing talker phone, but to beryllium just to Mr. Kennedy, helium does this exclusively due to the fact that helium (despite a deficiency of technological evidence) is acrophobic that holding the compartment telephone to his… https://t.co/8lDULPFJYH pic.twitter.com/KpMaYkX4A1

— Brandy Zadrozny (@BrandyZadrozny) July 16, 2024

The Democrats released a connection connected Tuesday pointing retired that Trump says “we” erstwhile talking to Kennedy, a proposition that the autarkic statesmanlike campaigner is really moving to assistance elite Trump successful November.

“RFK Jr. was recruited to tally by MAGA Republicans, his candidacy is funded by MAGA’s biggest donor, and present we larn he’s colluding with MAGA to assistance Donald Trump win. He has nary way to triumph successful this contention and is thing much than a spoiler for Trump,” DNC communications advisor Lis Smith said successful an emailed statement.

Trump met with Kennedy astatine the Republican National Convention successful Milwaukee, Wisconsin connected Monday to inquire for Kennedy’s endorsement, according to Politico. But Kennedy inactive denies that helium has immoderate plans to driblet retired of the contention and endorse Trump.

Notably, longtime Trump advisor Steve Bannon was 1 of the first people to beforehand Kennedy’s run successful 2023, though determination are inactive questions astir whether RFK Jr. is taking much votes from Trump oregon Biden. Trump presently leads Biden 42.4% to 40.3% successful the latest polling mean from FiveThirtyEight. Kennedy is polling astatine 9%, a fig that’s been reasonably accordant for months.

Neither Kennedy’s run nor Trump’s run instantly responded to emailed questions connected Tuesday. Gizmodo volition update this station if we perceive back.